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arXiv:2611.01335 · v2

Profile-aware diagnostics of discarded parameter-Hessian mass

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Evaluating block-diagonal curvature models involves two questions: how much curvature they omit, and what a specific correction changes at a finite step. We measure the squared off-block fraction of the parameter Hessian against references for group sizes and the observed within-group curvature profile. In CIFAR-100 ResNet-18 and a skip-free counterpart, similar initial discarded fractions accompany different profiles. At saved trained ResNet-18 weights, changing from stage to layer groups moves estimated off-block mass from below to above the profile envelope; an approximate conditional screen resolves this comparison in all six seed/input cells, while some skip free comparisons remain unresolved. Separately, in saved ResNet-50/Stanford Cars states, we compare candidates formed from off-group Hessian action, the remaining model residual and their combination through the same Hessian-informed map. At unit scale off-group input alone raises native minibatch loss relative to the base preconditioner candidate in 17 of 18 state/geometry comparisons, yet the combined candidate has lower loss than the remainder-only candidate in nine of those cases; preferences vary with scale and correction-norm matching. The profiles help assess block models and alternative groupings, while same-state candidate comparisons test a particular correction without equating structural mass with training gain.

作者备注:36 pages, 6 figures, 17 tables, including appendices

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Profile-aware diagnostics of discarded parameter-Hessian mass

Evaluating block-diagonal curvature models involves two questions: how much curvature they omit, and what a specific correction changes at a finite step. We measure the squared off-block fraction of the parameter Hessian against references for group sizes and the observed within-group curvature profile. In CIFAR-100 ResNet-18 and a skip-free counterpart, similar initial discarded fractions accompany different profiles. At saved trained ResNet-18 weights, changing from stage to layer groups moves estimated off-block mass from below to above the profile envelope; an approximate conditional screen resolves this comparison in all six seed/input cells, while some skip free comparisons remain unresolved. Separately, in saved ResNet-50/Stanford Cars states, we compare candidates formed from off-group Hessian action, the remaining model residual and their combination through the same Hessian-informed map. At unit scale off-group input alone raises native minibatch loss relative to the base preconditioner candidate in 17 of 18 state/geometry comparisons, yet the combined candidate has lower loss than the remainder-only candidate in nine of those cases; preferences vary with scale and correction-norm matching. The profiles help assess block models and alternative groupings, while same-state candidate comparisons test a particular correction without equating structural mass with training gain.

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v1 · 2026-11-01 07:04

Profile-aware diagnostics of discarded parameter-Hessian mass

A discarded parameter-Hessian fraction depends on the diagonal profile and parameter partition; it is not the Fisher information discarded by K-FAC. We compare off-block squared Frobenius mass with group-size and measured diagonal-profile references at specified weights, inputs and coordinates. Similar initial fractions in ResNet-18 and its skip-free twin accompany different profiles. On the same saved trained ResNet-18 states, changing from stage groups to layers moves estimated mass from below to above the profile envelope. An approximate joint conditional Monte Carlo screen resolves this crossing in 6/6 seed/input cells; the skip-free network has 2 resolved and 4 unresolved comparisons. A separate comparison of nine saved states under two geometry draws splits the full model residual into off-group Hessian action and its remainder: gradient, within-group action and damping. At unit correction scale, off-group input alone increases loss in 17 of 18 state-geometry comparisons; in nine of those cases, the full candidate has lower loss than the remainder-only candidate. After correction-norm matching, seven of the ten comparisons that initially favoured full favour the remainder. These finite-loss contrasts depend on scale and do not establish a restoration benefit.

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